Thursday, October 19, 2000

Caroline, Katie A, Lemar Discussion Page

28 comments:

  1. Hey my name's Lemar but people call me Shane. I'm 15 and I live in Bristol Wisconsin. I like to play guitar and snowboard

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  2. Hi I am a white female, standing at 5'2, long blond hair, hazil eyes, at age 16 turning 17 on Noveber 3, I like to listen to music, swim, and have fun.

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  3. Hi my name's Caroline. I'm 16 and in grade 11. I go to Delisle Composite School. If you don't know that's in Saskatchewan, around the middle of Canada. I'm about 5'7 or 5'8 and have curly blonde hair and blue eyes. I like to snowboard too although i'm not the greatest. I love sledding and other winter activities too. I also like to swim and I'm a lifeguard. It's a sweet job! basketball and soccer are my biggest sports. I'm the goalie for my soccer team and we're in provincials next weekend. Basketball doesn't start for a while. I like whatever other sports too.
    I hope we enjoy this book. My class is only on the first chapter so i guess we'll see.

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  4. Hey!
    I just came to evaluate your blogging but it seems to me: that i can't see any blogs to evaluate?
    haha.

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  5. Hi chap. 1-3 is cool and well decripted.

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  6. Hello chapters 4-7 are great if you haven't read them yet I sugest you to do so.

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  7. Is there anyone even typing in this group besides me?

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  8. Hi am Jason G. and I am a 15 year old boy from Brighton, Wisconsin. I am currently enrolled in Central High School and my favorite hobbies include playing hockey and baseball. I would like to contribute to this blog because it looks as if only one is participating. When I began reading this book it began to talk a lot about the family history on the Finchs. It started to mention Simon Finch, who was the earliest Finch on the family tree, Uncle Jack Finch, Atticus, Jem, and Scout. There are many more, but the book doesn't state anymore family members until later on. The book also indicates that this is a very close family and there aren't many tensions between family members. I have a question that is available for anyone to answer, and my question is what is your opinion on the Finch family and how do you think Jem and Scout get along with each other when there at home and when they are around others? I also have a another question that is one that may make most of the bloggers who read this really think. My other question is would you consider Calpurnia as a part of the family or just the cooking maid that she is.

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  9. Hi Jason. I go to the same school as you do only I'm a sophmore. I only play hockey during winter time, when there is ice on my lake. But I think that jem and scout get along realiy well at home but jem is distant for a reason because at school there is a social latier that people fallow. Even at this school there is one. Calpurnia is part of the family, she reaces the kids because there mother is dead. To your first question I do not know how to answer you. Sorry, p.s. I am not the best speller in the world so I'm sorry for that too.

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  10. Hey, sorry Katie I'm here too. Hi Jason, thanks for contributing to our group. I like hockey too, but I guess I probably should since I'm from Canada. I just play it for fun. To answer your questions Jason, I like the Finch family. Well Jem, Scout, Atticus and their Uncle Jack anyway. They're very respectable and are nice to everyone and don't think they're any better just because they're supposed to be a higher class family or because they're white. The rest of their family seems to be stuck up and ashamed of Atticus and who he helps as a lawyer etc. Aunt Alexandra is snooty. I don't see anything wrong with the way Atticus is bringing up his kids. Jem and Scout get along well together at the beggining and I like how they are especially Scout. She's funny, smart and respects her dad and her neighbours but fights when she feels she needs to and doesn't act like a girly-girl. Jem acts differently when he realizes he's growing up. For the second question I agree with Katie that Calpurnia is a part of the family. She helps raise the kids and they listen to her and she gives advice and takes them to church.

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  11. Ok so I am up to Ch.16 but way behind in posts.
    Ch. 1-3...Maycomb seems like a nice little town. Every community has its problems though. The town where I go to school-Delisle, is small too. Our school has almost 400 kids. How about you two? The social issues are obviously segregation and racism against coloured people. Atticus doesn't care as we see how Calpurnia is treated. I don't know what to think of Boo. He's messed up but I think he may be misunderstood possibly. The kids will be what get him involved in the story. The Radleys are outsiders because they don't do the same thing the rest of the community does like get together or go to church. They don't do anything bad though. An outsider just doesn't fit in or may have different opinions. That person could be fine with that. It doesn't always have to be in a bad way. Someone could be an outsider nowadays because they moved from a different country and can't speak our language very well or someone who just likes to keep to themselves. There are extreme reasons like they've been through a traumatic event and can't get back to their daily routines or interact with anyone anymore.

    Extend:
    Ch.1-Maycomb was an old town, but it was a tired old town when I first knew it. Pg.6 Scout is describing how the town is and it leads up to how the community is.

    Ch.2-“I’m just trying to tell you the new way they’re teachin’ the first grade stubborn. It’s the Dewey Decimal System.” Pg.24 Jem is explaining to Scout why Miss Caroline is upset with her advanced reading and writing. I think this was a big problem for Scout.

    Ch.3-“You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view.” Pg.39 Atticus is explaining to Scout why she shouldn’t be so mad at Miss Caroline and thinking about why others act the way they do and seeing things through their eyes. This helps Scout with her school problems and other situations and shows how thoughtful and wise Atticus is and his outlook on other people.

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  12. Well I am glade you are online now I was feeling a litte alone for awhile. But your not the only one behine on posts. I am on chapter 21. So far I am likeing the book, but not the posts. I hate to type.

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  13. Is any one even doing the Focuses?

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  14. The foilers are to many and to great to list in one little statement. They did so much to stop the main charcators.

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  15. I feel that the only good thing to come out of the night was that the children stoped the mob who was acting like a bunch of wild dogs.

    Katie A.

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  16. Hi, I'm not in this discussion group but my name is Rachel. You guys are doing very well with your analyzing and contributions. Try connecting the story to life more as you are answering your focus questions. To Caroline about Calpurnia, I disagree that Atticus is reacist toward Cal. I believe he treats her as an equal and is most definitely far from racist, as he was choosen to defend Tom Robinson for a reason. Calpurnia is their cook and is expected to do as he says. Later in the book, Atticus defends Cal and his unbiased opinion shows through many of his actions throughout the book. As for Boo, I agree that he is misunderstood. I think that he was trying to reach out to the children countless times throughout the book.

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  17. Hi, my name is William S. I'm a sophomore at Central High School. I'm not in this group either, but I'd like to contribute my thoughts.

    I think that Atticus is very grateful that Cal is around to help raise his children. If Atticus was racist, he would not let Cal interact with his children and especially not let her take them to the all-black church. When Aunt Alexandra is talking to Atticus about not letting Cal raise his kids, Atticus tells her that he could not raise them without her.

    As for Boo Radley, I think that he tries to reach out to the children because they are the only ones whose minds aren't corrupted by racism and prejudice yet. I think Boo is misunderstood as well, and that's why he chooses to stay inside his house.

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  18. Hey Rachel and William. Thanks for your thoughts. I completely agree with your thoughts about Atticus and Cal actually. When I said earlier that "Atticus doesn't care as we see how Calpurnia is treated" I meant Atticus doesn't care about colour and doesn't segregate at all and he treats Cal so well. She is definately part of the family. I didn't really explain it that well before. You guys must have wondered what the heck I was talking about since Atticus shows no sign of racism at all throughout the book. I like your opinions of Boo. And Rachel, good advice about connecting to our life more when answering the focus questions. I'll try to do that.

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  19. Your all right in one way or another so don't forget life is important to. There is many wonders still to come in the book I have read up to chapter 19 now and my view is that the Ewells are dirty untept people and they lie because they don't have any pride at all. The trial was fixed.

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  20. Focus 3
    I think the author would tell this story from an adult perspective because an adult would probably understand things more than a child would. There have already been times that Scout says that she realizes things that she hadn't thought of when she was younger. It helps a lot hearing some of the things said from an adult's point of view.

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  21. Focus 4
    I think that the antagonist in the story is Aunt Alexandra. She comes into their house and trys to control everything. She's tring to force Scout to act like a girl which I think is wrong because even he she did act like her aunt wanted her to she wouldn't be happy. To me Aunt Alexandra kind of seems like a dictator.

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  22. Focus 5
    Jem's Coming of Age
    -he feels that he is the boss of Scout
    -trys to act more maturely
    -shows less interested in things like the clubhouse and hanging out with Scout
    -shows more interest in things like reading and football
    -constantly talks down to Scout by saying things like "you wouldn't understand"

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  23. Focus 6
    I think the exploration of the mockingbird sheds light on what the title means and how it is related to the story. To me, being an individual in society means not to be pressured by what everyone else does and thinks. This relates to Atticus' masculinity because he still decides to defend Tom Robinson even when the other men give him a hard time about it. This, in my opinion, makes him more masculine than any one else, but back then he would be the opposite of that stereotype.

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  24. Focus 8
    There were many turning points throughout this book.
    -When Dill spends his first summer in Maycomb and he, Jem, and Scout start trying to make Boo Radley come out.
    -Scout begins her first year of school.
    -Miss Maudie's house burning down.
    -Atticus taking on Tom Robinson's case
    -Aunt Alexandra deciding to come and stay with Jem, Scout, and Atticus
    -Tom and Atticus losing the trial
    I think this is the biggest turning point becuase this has been a big conflict throughout most of the story and when he loses I think it comes as a huge surprise to Scout, Jem, and a few others.

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  25. Focus 8
    I agree. The trial was definitely one of the biggest turning points in the plot. Scout and Jem are thinking throughout the whole trial that there is no way their father cannot win the case because of the evidence against the Ewells. However, because of the racial tension at the time the trial takes place, Tom Robinson is indeed convicted of raping Mayella Ewell simply because he is black. This event changes everything in terms of how Jem and Scout perceive the concept of justice. The Finch children come to realize that injustice does exist, and life is not always fair. They come to see how bad things can happen to the best of people. It is sad when such a concept is visible to the youngest of humans.

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  26. Hey everyone. Lemar, your posts are good and have a lot of interesting points. I agree with the trial being the big turning point. It changes so much and lots of the themes of the book come out. So there's a BIG gap between my focuses but here's my #9:

    Explore-The two quotes are talking about how can people be so mean and unjust to people in their own communities. They know its wrong, but that's how it is and no one wants to step out and change it. The second one talking about how Mrs. Gates hates hitler and then turns around and hates people right at home kind of has the theme practise what you preach. She hates Hitler for being so mean and unjust and then she is herself. Going with the theme of the rest of this focus she's a hypocrite.

    Expand-Harper Lee's theme of social injustice is still relavent today because it hasn't been abolished yet. People have to deal with it everyday. On a smaller scale than Hitler and the holocaust and such extreme racism, bullying takes place. I would classify this as social injustice. There always seems to be some in our schools and community. I can't recall a really specific time when I witnessed personal hypocrisy but I know I have. I think people act this way because they're worried about what others will think if they step out and do something different or try to change. I've know I've been a hypocrite before. Anyone else?

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  27. And my #10:

    Explore-I'm sure of all the questions except #2. I know Tom Robinson was compared to a mockingbird earlier but I can't tell for sure in these chapters. I think Boo was? What do you guys think?

    Expand-I think the most heroic character can be shared between Atticus, Scout and Boo. Atticus defends Tom Robinson even though there's was no way he can win and the community looks down on it. I know he was put on the case but I think he still would've taken it if it was a choice. I think he's a hero to Jem and Scout too. He can't play touch football and doesn't go hunting but he always does what's right and fixes their problems. He's a hero to the coloured community too.
    Scout shows how ignorant and blind the adults are. This is shown outside the jail the night the three kids went to go see what Atticus was up to. She questions the reasoning of their ways and brings in the innocent view of a child. She learns that people aren't always who they seem to be and things aren't always fair or go how they should. She says what she thinks and defends what she believes in. She stands in others shoes. We see this especially at the end when she's on Boo's porch.
    Boo is a hero for saving Jem and Scout's lives. He was always watching over them. We saw this earlier too when he put a blanket on Scout during the house fire. He's a quiet hero.

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  28. I liked this book a lot. The whole storyline and the conflicts and theme were a lot to think about. I loved Scout. Just the way she was and her ways about everything. She was polite and respectful but she spoke her thoughts and would get into fights when she thought necessary. She wasn't a little girly girl and had a big impact in the story. My class got to go see the play by the way. We went on the 4th. It was a great experiance and was really well done. What were everyone else's final views and thoughts about the book?

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